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04/04/2014 08:00 AM Senate EDUCATION


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08:00:50 AM Start
08:01:08 AM SB216
08:33:35 AM Adjourn
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= SB 216 SEXUAL ABUSE/ASSAULT PREVENTION PROGRAMS
Moved CSSB 216(EDC) Out of Committee
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        SB 216-SEXUAL ABUSE/ASSAULT PREVENTION PROGRAMS                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:01:08 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STEVENS  announced the  consideration of  SB 216.  He asked                                                               
for a motion to adopt the committee substitute (CS), version C.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DUNLEAVY  moved to adopt the  CS for SB 216,  labeled 28-                                                               
LS1617\C, as the working document.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS objected for discussion purposes.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
AMY  SALTZMAN,   Staff,  Senator  Lesil  McGuire,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  Juneau,  Alaska, presented  changes  in  SB 216  on                                                               
behalf of the sponsor. She  highlighted language under subsection                                                               
(a),  lines 10  -  13, where  the word  "notice"  was changed  to                                                               
"publication" in  order to  add clarity.  Another change  added a                                                               
new subsection  (d) on page  2. It allows  parents to opt  out of                                                               
the training on behalf of their  child. A change was made on page                                                               
2,  which adds  subsection (c),  that the  required training  for                                                               
educators can be a part  of continuing education. The last change                                                               
is on page  2, lines 15 -  18 and adds subsection  (e), an option                                                               
to provide the  training required in SB 216 at  the same time the                                                               
training on  domestic violence is  held, in order to  reduce time                                                               
and cost to the district.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:05:58 AM                                                                                                                    
MS. SALTZMAN noted  a recommendation to add an  effective date of                                                               
June 1,  2016, in order to  give districts time to  implement the                                                               
training and programs.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DUNLEAVY asked about page 2,  lines 11 - 13, and asked if                                                               
there  would be  a notification  sent  out to  parents about  the                                                               
training.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. SALTZMAN did not know, but offered to find out.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DUNLEAVY stated  that  it is  important  to let  parents                                                               
know.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:08:00 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  STEDMAN said  he would  not object  to the  inclusion of                                                               
subsection (d), but he cautioned  that it is sometimes the parent                                                               
who  is the  perpetrator  and  that parent  might  object to  the                                                               
training. The  concept of  the bill  is to  protect the  kids and                                                               
this language  might expose  the child to  problems. He  shared a                                                               
story  about  a  family  member   and  the  tragic  consequences.                                                               
Language like this would have  exempted that child from receiving                                                               
the training.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEVENS asked  for the  logic behind  allowing parents  to                                                               
exempt.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. SALTZMAN  said the subsection  was added at  Senator Huggins'                                                               
request to allow parents to  have the choice. Typically, with sex                                                               
education the  district decides whether  or not to  allow parents                                                               
to decline. The  subsection could be removed  and districts could                                                               
make the decision.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS asked  in what other ways a  school might determine                                                               
if a child was being abused.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SALTZMAN said  it would be a  red flag if a  parent removed a                                                               
child  from the  training.  She said  publications  will be  also                                                               
distributed,  such  as  the "Making  Meaningful  Connections,"  a                                                               
guide from the U.S. Department of Health and Social Services.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:13:05 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GARDNER said she wished to offer an amendment.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:13:19 AM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:14:23 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STEVENS  reconvened the meeting and  stated that discussion                                                               
of  SB 216  would  continue before  the  committee considered  an                                                               
amendment. He  asked which school employees  receive sexual abuse                                                               
prevention training and the continuing education option.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
LAUREE MORTON,  Executive Director, Council on  Domestic Violence                                                               
and Sexual Assault, Department of  Public Safety, Juneau, Alaska,                                                               
provided information related to SB  216. She said the bill refers                                                               
to mandatory reporters, under AS  18.66.310, which are defined as                                                               
school teachers and coaches, and not, for example, custodians.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:16:08 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STEVENS  stated that continuing education  would also apply                                                               
to teachers and coaches.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He requested information about the effective date.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. SALTZMAN explained that moving  the effective date to June 1,                                                               
2016,  would provide  time for  school districts  to implement  a                                                               
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GARDNER  asked Senator  Dunleavy  if  a district  really                                                               
needs two years to do that.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DUNLEAVY  opined that it  is best to allow  adequate time                                                               
with all the changes for districts recently.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS removed his objection to adopting version C.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DUNLEAVY  moved to adopt  Conceptual Amendment  1, changing                                                               
the effective  date to  June 1, 2016.  There being  no objection,                                                               
Conceptual Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS opened and closed public testimony.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:19:01 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GARDNER offered Conceptual Amendment  2: On page 2, lines                                                               
11 - 13,  in new subsection (d), remove the  words "decline," "or                                                               
publications," and  "on behalf of  the child," and add  the words                                                               
"may participate in."  She said  her concern is that the children                                                               
who are  being victimized by a  family might be removed  from the                                                               
training. It also  might make the parents aware of  abuse that is                                                               
happening.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS summarized  that the amendment would  remove that a                                                               
parent could decline training.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARDNER  said it allows  the child to participate  in the                                                               
training provided in the section.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DUNLEAVY noted it is  a difficult subject. He agreed that                                                               
parents are often the problem.  However, the amendment allows the                                                               
state to have  precedence over the training of the  child on this                                                               
topic.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS  said that it  is his interpretation that  a parent                                                               
could not decline.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARDNER stated that a  parent can remove their child from                                                               
anything, any  time. The  amendment provides  that the  parent is                                                               
notified  and  given  the  opportunity  to  participate.  Parents                                                               
always  have  the  option  to  keep their  children  out  of  the                                                               
training. She maintained  that most sexual assault  is by someone                                                               
the child knows.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS asked the Ms. Saltzman to comment.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:23:16 AM                                                                                                                    
MS.  SALZMAN  thought  the  sponsor   would  be  fine  with  that                                                               
amendment,  since  it  would  include  parent  notification.  She                                                               
pointed out that  school districts make their own  policies as to                                                               
whether parents can opt out of these types of training.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MORTON  voiced concern  about  a  child missing  the  lesson                                                               
because it makes  the secret stronger for the child.  She said it                                                               
is a  difficult issue. In an  ideal world, she would  not include                                                               
the  amendment  because  school districts  already  provide  that                                                               
parents can  opt in  or out  of programs.  She worried  that kids                                                               
will feel more pressure to keep quiet.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DUNLEAVY  asked what struggles  teachers would  have with                                                               
this concept.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN   MCCAULEY,  Director,   Teaching  and   Learning  Support,                                                               
Department  of Education  and Early  Development (DEED),  Juneau,                                                               
Alaska, answered questions related to  SB 216. She offered that a                                                               
district  could choose  to  have a  local policy  to  opt out  of                                                               
programs. She suggested that the language  does not have to be in                                                               
the  bill. Districts  put into  place  options and  notifications                                                               
regarding  sensitive   curriculum  topics.  If  the   wording  is                                                               
included in the bill, it requires an opt-out provision.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS concluded that it is  a matter of local control. He                                                               
suggested striking subsection (d)  and Conceptual Amendment 2 and                                                               
leave the decision up to districts.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MCCAULEY agreed.  Many  such  policies are  left  up to  the                                                               
district. Without (d),  the bill states that  the curriculum must                                                               
be in place, but would not require an opt-out provision.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:29:33 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GARDNER  asked if the  bill mandates that  the curriculum                                                               
is in place or that it is used.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MCCAULEY reviewed  the bill  - "the  governing body  of each                                                               
school district  shall adopt and implement  a policy establishing                                                               
a mandatory  training program for  students" - and  she concluded                                                               
that schools must provide the education to children.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARDNER withdrew Conceptual Amendment 2.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS  stated that  SB 216  is an  important bill  and it                                                               
goes to the Senate Finance Committee next.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GARDNER  offered  Conceptual   Amendment  3,  to  strike                                                               
subsection (d). There being no  objection, Conceptual Amendment 3                                                               
was adopted.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:31:57 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNLEAVY  moved to report the  CS for SB 216,  version C,                                                               
as amended,  from committee  with individual  recommendations and                                                               
attached fiscal note.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEVENS  reviewed  the  changes and  asked  if  there  was                                                               
objection;  finding  none, he  announced  that  CSSB 216(EDC)  is                                                               
reported from the Senate Education Standing Committee.                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
14_SB216_BillText_VersionC_040314.PDF SEDC 4/4/2014 8:00:00 AM
SB 216